2004 Fly Scores

Scores will be posted as they are received

This is a courtesy to bring you regional fly scores as quickly as possible, we are posting the scores that we receive from RD's and judges as the regional fly progresses. These scores with red headers are not comprehensive fly reports and may not reflect all the kits flown and entered in each region. Complete official fly reports will be posted in green when received.

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San Diego	Northern California	Texas	Great Britain
South Central	Northwest International	East Yorkshire	Southern California
Nor Cal Coastal	Denmark	N Central West	Colorado
North Central East	N Rocky Mountain	New Mexico	East
Tri State	Southern California North	Ontario	Great Plains
Southeast Regional	South Africa Region 3	Central	Hawaii
Mountain West	New England

Australia East Coast		Judge David Graham
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
Nick Tsoltoudis #2	1.6	1.6	209.92
Nick Tsoltoudis #1	1.4	1.3	202.02
Con Kouzoukas #2	1.5	1.4	191.1
Ishmail Haydar #2	1.4	1.5	130.2
Phil Gemelas #2	1.4	1.6	82.88
George Witenko	1.5	1.4	65.1
Ishmail Haydar #2	1.2	1.2	21.6
Con Kouzoukas #1			DQ
Jim Drakoulis #1			DQ
Jim Drakoulis #2			DQ
David Graham	DNF Not enough birds to compete
Ray Mckenzie	DNF Due to an in considerate neighbor birds had to be disposed of
Phil Gemelas #1	DNF Due to Falcon attacks team to spooked to fly
Mario Corral	DNF not enough birds to compete
Martin Wright	DNF not enough birds to compete

Australia South Coast		Judges Val Aquilina , Ken Howatt, and Brian Strong
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
Paul Byrne	1.3	1.3	109.85
Brad Strong	1.3	1.3	76.05
Garry Fraser	1.3	1.3	52.39
Steve Lovitt	1.3	1.0	50.00
David Lister	1.3	1.2	43.31
Adrian Gasparini	1.0	1.0	14.3
Brian Strong	1.0	1.0	5
Rick Price	1.0	1.0	5
Brian Strong #2			0
Damir Dackovic			0
Richard Willey			0
Strati Panagiotakas			0
Steve Grancic			DQ
Val Aquilina			DQ
Ken Howard			DQ
Robert Filardo			DNF
Jim Carauana			DNF
John Siotas			DNF
Keven Giddins			DNF

N. CA Central region

Judge Dave Moseley

We started bright and early the sun was out and had the makings of a good day first to fly was Scott Campbell. His birds went up and it look good till they started to lift, and did they lift he scored 2 breaks on the way up , and that was it , they just flew on one wing for the rest of the time final score was 32.5 we seen some nice birds in the kit just never work together.

Next to fly was Roy Edmonds, I was looking forward to Roy's as I knew he had done well with his birds before but we just got the same thing as we seen at Scott's they when high so fast and never got a chance to score them so no score for Roy , Sorry Roy.

Then on to Jose Rivar had coffee and donuts then got his kit out. In this kit there was some nice individual birds but they was still tending to go high but enjoy the birds all the same with a final score of 15.6

On to Kevin Naylor, his kit flew stiff and fast and again was to high and on one wing hence there was no score( but he was near a dairy farm and breed shit loads of fly's ) joke Kevin better luck next time

This took us to the end of the first day and we met some nice people along the way. Sunday the 1st of April we was all hoping for a better day again the sun was out and it was a nice day off we went to (Roy Edmonds) second team. But again the birds lifted and was on one wing hence he scored 5 points.

Back to Scott Campbell's to fly his second team again much the same as before flying high and on one wing but did manage to score 16.5

Off to Jack Meyers to fly his team on release one bird refused to go so we was off to a bad start but the kit held its height but was still going on one wing but did manage to score 10 points.

Then on to Bayani Banaal, up went the birds and again the same thing as before the birds were going on one wing but as all the other kits there was one or two nice birds in the team and finished with a score of 12.1. This ended the second day so we all went for a bite to eat and had a chat, thanks for the meal Bayani.

The 2nd /05/ 04 up at I think it was 3 am for a 3 hour drive to John Lewis. His birds went up and to no surprise did the same on one wing and flying fast never really did much at all again no score sorry john hope you do better next year.

Off to Joe Emberton, Joe put the birds up and they lifted he scored 13.2 but because of out birds he mist 2 breaks of 5 this may have put him in second place but Joe assured me that the birds never normally left the kit.

Off to Jim Bakkers, he put the birds up but again a no score by this time I think we all thought the same thing that the weather was some thing to do with the way the birds was flying.

Arrived at Aris Punla, again the same as all the other kits they lifted and was seldom on work but he did manage to score 5 points.

Off to Ruben Melendez, this kit did put a little work in but did not work as a team there for there was no score.( but one of the little buggers was a good shot with the shit because it got me on the head lol) Ruben got us something to eat before we moved on to the next one thanks Ruben.

On to Henry Davis, Henrys birds did score a 5 but I think he needs to work on the kit to get it better keep trying Henry

Off to Sid Love, this kit started well but was very fast to get high some nice birds in it all the same he scored 7.8.

Then to the home of Joe Martinez, up the birds went but was flying very fast and low on one wing they did get up but soon came down 2 birds down and a d/q sorry Joe nice place and the trike was nice hope your wife enjoys it.

On to Bill Washington, Bill had 2 birds down in 5 minutes sorry Bill did see some good birds in this kit but he was d/q.

Back to Jim Bakker's this kit did better for Jim but as the rest flew on one wing so did this kit but some nice birds all the same and he took second place with a score of 16.9.

Back to John lewis, John had no luck at all on this day his second kit landed and he was d/q.

Back to fly Joe Emberton's second kit. He had 2 birds down in 16 minutes but did manage to get 5 points better luck next year Joe.

We stopped at Joe's for the night and we all went for a meal, it was a very nice night with some good friends that we met here in the USA.

Well the last day and one kit to go we had a nice drive to Richard Nafzear. He lives in a real stunning place , we had a chat the he put the birds out. But he had 3 birds out the kit all the time and we was unable to score his kit but the was some nice birds in what we seen.

Final Results

Scott Campbell first with a score of 32.5

Jim Bakker second with a score of 16.9

Scott Campbell third with a score of 16.5

Jose Rivar forth with a score of 15.6

Joe Emberton fifth with a score of 13.2

Bayani Banaal sixth with a score of 12.1

Jack Meyers seventh with a score of 10

Sid Love eighth with a score of 7.8

joint ninth was as listed

Roy Edmonds

Pula Aris all with a score of 5

Henry Davis

Joe Emberton

Roy Edmonds

Kevin Naylor

John Lewis

Richard Nafzearz

Ruben Melendez

the above had no score

the above was d/q

Please note that the scores on this fly was nothing to do with the quality. Of the bird I was watching , but more to do with the change in weather conditions, at some points it was reaching 97 degrees and it show on the birds the last time I saw this sort of thing was on the all off England fly 3 years ago we went 3 to 4 days with every kit doing the same thing as this, then the weather changed and we saw some different kits working . I'm disappointed that I never saw the full potential of the kits here in the states but I'm pleased I met the flyers her as they made me feel at home.

Id also like to thank Scott and Tammy for there hospitality and for showing use all the different places in your country thanks Scott and Tammy. Hope we can all get together again some time. yours Dave Moseley

N. East England		Judge Peter Harper
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
D.Forster	1.5	1.3	468
P Foster	1.3	1.1	371.18
D Mclaughlin	1.3	1.2	162.24
A Milne	1.3	1.1	151.58
G Frost	1.3	1.1	147.29
M Proudman	1.3	1.1	137.28
T Allison	1.2	1.1	125.4
J Wanless	1.4	1.2	120.96
J Boyle	1.2	1.1	84.48
P Lockwood	1.3	1.1	65.78
G Frost	1.3	1.1	28.6
A Milne	1.1	1.1	15.31
A Hopper	1.1	1.0	5.5
C Eddits			no score
P Robinson			no score
W Wilson			no score
H Armstrong			withdrawn
D Smith			withdrawn
D Smith			withdrawn
M Proudman			withdrawn
P Harper			judging

South Africa Region 2		Judge Riaan Kruger
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
Jim Taylor #1	1.5	1.4	289.8
Frank Baker #2	1.4	1.4	276.36
Ben Van Heerden #1	1.4	1.4	225.4
Gert Du Pless #1	1.5	1.4	201.6
Johan Du Preez #2	1.4	1.4	141.12
Gawie Cilliers #1	1.3	1.3	128.44
Percy Pienaar #1	1.3	1.3	126.75
Johan Du Preez #1	1.3	1.4	121.94
Riaan Naude #1	1.2	1.2	106.56
Kenny Tommy #1	1.4	1.3	105.56
Gerrie Naude #1	1.2	1.2	100.8
Jan Knoetze #1	1.3	1.3	81.12
Hennie Wagener #2	1.2	1.2	72
Steve Naude #1	1.3	1.3	69.29
Hennie Wagener #1	1.2	1.2	67.68
Gawie Cilliers #2	1.2	1.2	59.04
Sean Cresswell #1	1.4	1.3	58.24
Eugene Sequera #1	1.3	1.3	50.7
Steve Naude #2	1.4	1.4	49
Trevor Michell #2	1.3	1.3	45.63
Trevor Michell #1	1.3	1.2	45.24
Mervin Keyser #1	1.2	1.2	44.64
Calman Grobler #1	1.3	1.2	39
Gert Du Pless #2	1.3	1.3	32.11
George Sokeneck #1	1.3	1.3	30.42
Jim Taylor #2	1.3	1.2	26.52
Andre Kriel #1	1.1	1.1	24.2
Brian Pretorius #1	1.2	1.2	17.28
Frank Dry #2	1.3	1.3	16.9
Peet Du Pless #1	1.2	1,2	14.4
Benny Pypers #1	1.4	1.4	11.76
Louis Loubser #1	1.3	1.3	8.45
Tommy Stickling #2	1.2	1.2	7.2
Frank Baker #1	1.2	1.2	7.2
Kobus Erasmus #1	1.2	1.1	6.6
Frank Dry #1			0
Tommy Stickling #1			0
Calman Grobler #2			0
Piet Henning #1			0
George Sokeneck #2			0
Piet Henning #2			0
Peter Thenissin #1			DQ
Benny Pypers #2			0
Kenny Tommy #2			0
Eugene Sequera #2			0
Peter Thenissin #2			0
Brian Pretorius #2			0
Peet Du Pless #2			0
Riaan Naude #2			0
Jan Knoetze #2			0
Paul Erasmus #1			0
Johan Zietsman #1			0
Sean Cresswell #2			0
Percy Pienaar #2			0
Ben Van Heerden #2			0
Andre Kriel #2			0
Johan Zietsman #2			0
Paul Erasmus #2			0
Kobus Erasmus #2			0
Gerrie Naude #2			0

Holland Regional		Judges: Rene Ottema, Heine Bijker Henk Nijman.
Name	Kwaliteit	Diepte	Total
Henk Nijman	1.4	1.37	247.22
Peter Goossens	1.26	1.26	93.12
Rene Ottema	1.27	1.27	70.36
Ronnie Schoemaker	1.33	1.3	53.54
Henk Voets	1.33	1.36	52.64
Jan Fleerakkers	1.2	1.26	51.40
Heine Bijker	1.2	1.23	50.14
Niek Steggerda	1.2	1.2	45.82
Henri Smit	1.17	1.2	31.56
Gosse Keizer	1.2	1.1	27.81
Willem Hoogenberg		due to overfly, had not enough birds to fly
Gerrie Haarsma		rebuilding his loft
Ronald Jansen		had no time due to his work
Theo v. Dooren		his birds where sick
Piet Duinkerken		lost too many birds to fly

South Africa Region 1		Judge Johnny Condarie
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
J Conradie #1	1.5	1.5	508.5
A Kruger #1	1.5	1.4	485.1
P Breedt #1	1.7	1.4	326.06
A.McKay #1	1.4	1.3	313.04
B.Subke #1	1.4	1.4	184.24
D.Bosman #1	1.5	1.4	165.9
E. Roscoe #1	1.4	1.3	161.98
B.Hoffman #1	1.5	1.4	161.7
H. du Preez #1	1.4	1.2	156.24
A. Jackson #1	1.4	1.4	154.84
C M Joubert #1	1.4	1.4	139.16
C M Joubert #2	1.4	1.4	135.24
E. Roscoe #2	1.6	1.5	132
H Cloete #1	1.5	1.4	115.5
D du Toit #1	1.4	1.2	98.28
A Kruger #2	1.4	1.4	96.04
F Steenkamp #1	1.4	1.2	87.36
F Gouws #1	1.4	1.3	76.44
J v Tonder #2	1.4	1.3	76.44
M Fourie #1	1.4	1.3	69.16
T Oosthuizen #1	1.2	1.1	51.48
K Potgieter #1	1.3	1.3	43.94
A Seymour-Smith #1	1.3	1.3	42.25
B.Subke #2	1.3	1.2	39
E Kay #2	1.4	1.1	35.42
A Gouws #1	1.4	1.4	25.45
Fde Beer #1	1.4	1.2	20.16
F Deysel #1	1.3	1.2	18.72
P Henry #1	1.1	1.1	18.15
R v d Merwe #1	1.2	1.2	17.28
Fde Beer #2	1.4	1.3	16.38
R v d Merwe #2	1.1	1.1	16
A Steenkamp #1	1.3	1.2	7.8
F v Wyk #1	1.2	1.2	7.2
P Breedt #2	1.1	1.1	6.05
P Greef #1			0
F Steenkamp #2			0 Kit never grouped
D Bisschoff #2			0 no kit for 20min
S Gouws #1			0 no kit for 20min.
S Gouws #2			0 no kit for 20min.
H. du Preez #2			DQ
A. Jackson #2			DQ
F Gouws #2			DQ
J v Tonder #1			DQ
F v Wyk #2			DQ
P Greef #2			DQ
J Nel #1			DQ
J Nel #2			DQ
P de Klerk #1			DQ
P de Klerk #2			DQ
R Germishuys #1		DQ No kit for full time
D Bisschoff #1		DQ at start as 2 birds settled before start of comp.
H Nagel #1		DQ Two birds down
H Nagel #2			DNF
M Samuels		DNF Lost birds in overfly
B Swart		DNF any kits as he lost all his birds.
J Roscoe			DNF
J Conradie #2			DNF
A.McKay #2		DNF Lost kit in overfly
D.Bosman #2			DNF
B.Hoffman #2		DNF Lost kit to predators
H Cloete #2			DNF
D du Toit #2		DNF Relocate his house
M Fourie #2			DNF
T Oosthuizen #2			DNF
K Potgieter #2			DNF
A Seymour-Smith #2			DNF
E Kay #1		DNF 15 of this kit was killed by a Spotted Genet
A Gouws #2			DNF
F Deysel #2			DNF
P Henry #2			DNF
A Steenkamp #2			DNF
R Germishuys #2			DNF

NOTHERN GAUTENG REGION S. Africa		JUDGE BUKS KNOETZE
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
P. Joubert	1.4	1.4	388.08
B. Knoetze	1.5	1.3	126.75
H. van Rensburg	1.3	1.3	81.12
S. Smit	1.1	1.1	65.34
P. du Plessis	1.3	1.3	54.08
B. Oosthuizen	1.3	1.3	52.39
P. White	1.1	1.3	47.19
T. Borain	1.2	1.1	43.56
W. Fourie	1.0	1.1	39.6
P. du Plessis	1.2	1.2	38.88
C. Nel	1.5	1.5	38.25
Anton Horn	1.2	1.0	32.4
W. Verster	1.0	1.0	25
C. van Vuuren	1.1	1.2	22.44
M. de Beer	1.0	1.2	19.2
B. Mc Kenzie	1.3	1.3	16.9
Andre Horn	1.0	1.0	5
M. Bezuidenhout			0
M. Fernandez			0
A. de Beer			0
K. Stander			0
H. Kruger			0
I. van der Westhuizen			0
H. Rudman			0
S. Louw	1.1	1.1	DQ
V. Naidoo	1.1	1.1	DQ
J. Kruger	1.0	1.1	DQ
J. Green	1.0	1.0	DQ
G. Claasen	1.1	1.2	DQ
T. Claassen	1.1	1.1	DQ
C. Nel	1.5	1.5	DQ

Southeast Regional

Judge John Castro

After some time away and recovery time I was again on the road with Regional Director, Don Simpson. It was great to be alive. To be in a wheelchair and still be able to judge again was a real shot in the gut. We left Anderson, South Carolina for Virginia on Friday with great expectations. By the way you may wonder why this is type written in caps. Well let me explain that my stroke took away the use of my left arm as my left side is in the recovery stage and I an doing the best I can with one finger (this report was re-typed by Steve Clayton, the original was all capital letters).

We spent the night at Fred and Roxane Bennetts home. After a good rest and great breakfast at the Bennets home we went out to judge the kit. This kit flew 7.51 minutes. There were two birds out of the kit the whole time. DQ

Donnie Cox flew next at 8:50. Mr. Cox had a kit of 15 birds. One bird flew out much of the time, therefore only seven breaks counted. Q-1.0 D-1.0 Score: 36

Elmore Wade was next to fly at 10am in the morning. He flew 20 birds that flew the time but got wond blown the entire fly time. Most of the time they were out of sight. Q-1.3 D-1.2 Score: 23.4

We then went to Wayne Yates home to fly his and Rockys birds. Sorry I dont have Rockys last name but Rocky had been kind enough to feed everyone at his bachlor pad. By now the crowd had certainly increased. Free food and you may have many friends. Wayne flew a 20 bird kit. The birds flew well at a good height. It was breezy but nice. This kit had 16 breaks for the lead. The kit showed excellent kitting, good chemistry but frequently flew behind the trees. Q-1.1 D1.1 Score:101.64

Following this kit, we went to fly Tyrone Seabron fly his birds. Tyrone only had 15 birds to fly. He turned his team out and two birds flew lower than the kit. They scored one time but flew 18.10 minutes. Q-1.0 D-1.0 Score: 5

Now it was time for Don and I to head to North Carolina. We expressed our thanks and good byes and hit the road again. Very nice group of guys in Virginia. Joe Barnes wwas scheduled to fly but he had some family illness come up. Don and I found Wendle Carters lofts and told him we would be there at 7am to judge his kit of rollers. Right on time we drove in his driveway. Sad to say Wendle did his part but his birds were not ready for this competition. The birds flew 20 minutes but did not score a turn.

The young buck of North Carolina, Jay Yandle flew at 8am. Sharp and the kit responded well. He flew 20 birds and they had 11 good turns. This young man will be tough in the near future. The birds flew 20 minutes. Q-1.3 D-1.3 Score: 103.09 and the lead in the region.

At 9:30am Toby Brady put up a pretty good kit of 20 birds. This kit had 14 turns and were flying well until they got tired and hot. Sad to say as good as they did, they were a DQ in 14:08 minutes. They would have been in the lead as they had scored enough at the time. DQ

We arrived around 1pm and at 1:15 the best in the sport, Greg Truesdale, put his tired kit in the air. Greg had flown in the burn off on Saturday and agreed to fly in the World Cup Fly on Sunday. He put up 19 birds and hoped for the best. Gregs kit had two birds out from the get go but the kit was DQ in 11:13 minutes flown. The kit had a two minute time out. Sorry to see that happen to a good sport like Greg Truesdale.

O J Hood was scheduled to fly but the hawks had culled his kit down bad and he was unable to fly. Sorry OJ, I was looking forward to seeing your birds in the air.

Joe Bob Stuka was ready to fly. He knew he would have to fly in the heat and he put his 20 bird A team in the sky. The birds went up, up and away. At the 18:52 mark he put up his B kit and gave up his low score. This kit did well for themselves although they were not judged.

3:30pm was not the best draw that same day we arrived back in Anderson at the Simpson loft. At 7:30pm and wanting to see his own birds fly, Don put up his A kit in the sky. Much to our surprise we saw turn after turn. I stood there with my mouth wide open. After 20 minutes the kit landed and went in. Don then took a chance and let out the B kit. This kit went up and began to turn even more than the first kit. I watched as Don had 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18 bird turns. Boy were we surprized, or at least I was. The best I ever seen at Dons loft. I had to thank him for allowing me to wotness those hot birds.

Friday evening Don said I could judge his kits. Bobby Bradley was ther from Tennessee. My son Shayne, went with me to be timekeeper for me and witness what I would see. Don flew the first kit at 7:23pm and they flew just 15:01. I couldnt believe this was the same kit I had seen Sunday evening. This kit hjad 11 turns but only one would be a 17 bird turn. Q-1.3 D-1.4 Score: 211.12, Good for the new lead. It was time for the second kit to fly. It was 8:03pm and time was getting short. This was the real hot kit I had seen before and I anticipated a real active kit. Much to my surprise again there were only 9 turns in 16:41. He would get Q-1.4 D-1.5 Score: 121.8, Good for second place.

We headed for North Carolina again Saturday morning. This time we headed for the mountains with Bobby Bradley driving. The first to fly here would be the owner of the fish farm, William Cable. At 2:15pm Mr. Cable put up his 20 bird kit. The wind picked up but the birds were barely aware. They had only 6 good turns but one was 16 birds. They flew 15:32 in all. Q-1.2 D-1.4 Score 113.32 and very good for the time they flew.

Next to fly would be Clay Hoyles son, Sandy Hoyle. Sandy flew 19 birds and they flew the 20 minutes. Q-1.0 D-1.0 Two turns for the score: 10

Last but not least to fly was Clay Hoyle. At 7:35pm he put up a kit of 20 birds. I counted 27 turns. One of 10 birds and one of 15 of 20 birds. What else can I say? The kit spoke for itself. Joe Bob Stuka was the timekeeper. Q1.3 D1.3 The winning score: 303.35

OUR CONGRATULATIONS GO TO CLAY HOYLE OF NORTH CAROLINA!

SOUTH AFRICA REGION 3		JUDGE HANNES ROSSOUW
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
ALBERT WALLIS			163.38
HENNIE PFAHL			159.84
CHRIS VENTER			117
HANNES ROSSOUW			114
TOM DU TOIT			112.12
TONY JOSEPH			96.39
GERIT CILLIERS			74.62
ANDRIES VAN RENSBURG			73.92
CEDRICKLEIGHTON			46.80
TJAART KILLIAN			35.75
JEROM WATSON			24.48
SILVENO DE VILLIERS			19.20
DUKE JACOBS			12.74
LANCE EVERTS			15.00
TYSIE FOURIE			15.00
JOHAN PEDRO			13.31
JAN DU PLESSIE			11.00
BOTTIE BOTHMA			10.00
POEN SAHABODIEN			5.00
HENNIE SNYMAN			0
BOYCE RIBERTS			DQ
ANTONY TUCK			DQ
JOHAN VAN ZYL			DQ
DRIES CRAUSE			DQ
JOHAN VENTER			DQ
AUBREY BOTHA			DQ
LOUIS RICHARDS			DNF
WILLIE VANDER MERWE			DNF
ERNEST WATSON			DNF
HENNIE DU BRUYN			DNF

New England Regional

Judge John Antonelli

First and foremost I would like to thank everyone concerned for their gracious hospitality and Brotherhood In making this World Cup An experience I will always cherish,, The weather was excellant for flying rollers and I saw some excelant kits and Kits that experienced some bad luck,, But this Is expected In this elusive sport we call rollers,, Everything went smooth from start to finish,, We all had some good laugh,s, good food,,and talked rollers,, I would like to thank,, Joe Testa, Mark Thompson and James Spring for their dedication in making this happen, I believe that the people I met, and the total experience of this fly should be experienced by an endeaver such as this, I made some lasting friendships and sparked some old ones. Also a special thanks to Diana Testa for the best italian cuisine ( Thanks Mom) And my buddy Dave Szabatrua for traveling all the way to New England just to help out as well as hang out with "The Crew".

Sincerely Submitted: John Antonelli, Sr. "The Cloning Station"

Name

Quality

Depth

Total

Doug Anderson

1.4

390.04

Jim Spring #1

1.3

1.4

222.04

Jim Spring #2

1.3

218.01

Steve Hickey #1

1.3

1.4

134.68

Brian Ridley

1.2

1.1

100.32

Ritchie Ernst

1.1

1.2

69.96

John Dushinski #1

1.3

38.87

Doug Engermann #1

1.2

27.36

Ken Parker #1

1.1

25.41

Tony Botella

1.1

12.2

6.6

Mark Thompson #1

Charlie Hickey #1

Mark Lewis #1

Sidney Pires

Doug Engermann #2

John Marino

Joe Testa #1

Art DaSilva #1

DNF

Art DaSilva #2

DNF

John Dushinski #2

Charlie Hickey #2

DNF

Steve Hickey #2

DNF

Mark Lewis #2

DNF

Paul Maywald #1

DNF

Paul Maywald #2

DNF

Ken Parker #2

DNF

Joe Testa #2

Mark Thompson #2

Tom Van Den Bossche #1

DNF

Tom Van Den Bossche #2

DNF

Hawaii

Judge by Tom Mendes

Region 2004 World Cup Fly-off Results

Rev: June 17, 2004

Rank	Flyer/ Kit	Date Flown	Kit Size	Raw Score	Q	D	Total	Comment
1	Tom Mendes #1	5/8/04	17	56	1	1	56	Kitting well
2	Rodman Pasco #1	5/8/04	18	26	1	1	26	Couple of birds w/ good Q and D
3	Walt Rosehill #1	5/8/04	18	21	1	1	21	Kitting well, couple of stand out birds
4	Clayton Leu #1	5/8/04	17	20	1	1	20	Many attempted turns
4	Tom Mendes #2	5/22/04	20	20	1	1	20	Couple of stand out birds
5	Eric Revells #1	6/12/04	20	16	-	-	16	Good kitting, frequent action, not enough rolling in unison
6	Robert Perry	5/8/04	18	5	1	1	5	Many attempted turns
-	Rodman Pasco #2	5/22/04	18	-	-	-	-	Kitting well, too few birds rollg on turns, too high to score
-	Walt Rosehill #2	5/22/04	20	-	-	-	-	DQ Good kitting, did not fly minimum time (12 min)
-	Clayton Leu #2	5/22/04	19	-	-	-	-	DQ Kitting well but did not fly the time (13 min)
-	Todd DiAntonio #1	5/8/04	16	-	-	-	-	DQ 2 out birds before 15 min, rest too high to score
-	Dennis Nakashima #1	5/8/04	15	-	-	-	-	DQ Good kitting, did not fly min time
-	Eric Revells #2	6/12/04	20	-	-	-	-	DQ Nice kit, did not fly min time (4 min)
-	Dennis Nakashima #2	5/22/04	-	-	-	-	-	DQ Did not meet min. kit size due to lost birds
-	Todd DiAntonio #2	5/22/04	-	-	-	-	-	DQ Did not meet min. kit size due to overfly

Note: Kits judged by Tom Mendes with other WC participants present at every fly.

Mountain West		Judge JoeBob Stuka
Lenny Vialpando, Jason Brown, Jay Starley, Guil Rand and the rest of the flyers were outstanding hosts who made it fun to be around and not just a fly. Saw some top notch birds and Jay Starley's kit was an outstanding example of the level we all need to strive and take our birds. Jay's kit was the highest Q and D kit I have witnessed anywhere in the world-they were right and gave it all, and Jay prepped them like a master. All who witnessed this kit, saw one of the best kits in the world for Q and D-no wing visible in the spin and many in the 40'-60'. That picture should stick with you all to never be satisfied until your birds hit this level. Thanks to all. JoeBob
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
Jay Starley	1.8	1.7	419.22
George Ohlsen	1.4	1.4	272.44
Guil Rand	1.3	1.2	235.56
Glen VanRoekel	1.3	1.4	98.28
Brad Winward	1.5	1.6	93.6
Tom Monson	1.3	1.4	83.72
Justin Okerland	1.3	1.2	60.84
Adam Hill	1.3	1.2	51.48
Tom Monson	1.3	1.2	49.92
Kirk Middah	1.3	1.3	35.49
Rod Forbush	1.3	1.2	31.2
Mike Morgan	1.2	1.2	28.8
Scott Campbell	1.3	1.3	25.6
Adam Hill	1.3	1.3	21.97
Thayne Lee	1.2	1.2	21.6
Justin Okerland	1.3	1.3	20.28
Don MacCauley	1.1	1.1	18.15
Mark Cissna	1.1	1.1	18.15
Kris Hunt	1.2	1.1	13.2
Jay Starley			0
Rod Dixon			0
Blake Coats			0
Lenny Vialpando			0
Mont Bone			0
Clint Anderson			DQ
Guil Rand			DQ
Randy Brunson			DQ
Jason Brown			DQ
Joe Garza			DQ
Brad Winward			DQ
Wayne Purrington			DQ
Thayne Lee 2ND			DNF
Randy Brunson 2ND			DNF
Scott Campbell 2ND			DNF
Mont Bone 2ND			DNF
Central Region		Judge Danny Courtney
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
David Connell			1662.75
Steve Evans			1559.04
Lloyd Lee			966.24
Bob Westfall			702.00
Randy Wilson			650.25
Willie Silvey			587.86
Ben Winkelman			415.52
John Smeltzer			368.48
Jerry Holder			366.52
Dan Taylor			361.44
VL Gilmore			349.92
Rick Dillehay			321.30
Ray Sanchez			307.58
Pat Holder			305.89
Dave Hafner			188.64
Lisa Meier			139.68
Ricky Long			118.30
Bill Tomforde			113.88
Billy Elwick			133.76
John Antonelli			101.40
Pat Holder			80.64
RK Pair			76.23
June Bussing			62.92
Ferrell Bussing			41.76
Jack Knowlan			38.00
RK Pair			27.83
Bill Roy			16.00
Larry Fowler			10.00
Steve Clayton			6.0
Dan Taylor			DQ
John Beeson			DQ
Willie Silvey			DQ
Paul Daniel			DQ
Paul Daniel			DQ
John Antonelli			DQ
Vernon Hoorman		Not enough birds	DNF
Bill Gambill		Not enough birds	DNF
Steve Clayton			DNF
Ray Sanchez			DNF
Lisa Meier			DNF
John Smeltzer			DNF
Ferrell Bussing			DNF
June Bussing			DNF
Randy Wilson			DNF
Great Plains Regional		Judge Marco Solorio
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
Dennis Berry	1.3	1.4	167.44
Rich Cash	1.2	1.2	96.48
Cody Fattig			0
Cody Fattig			DNF
Dennis Berry			DQ
Rich Cash			DQ
Dale Cole			DQ
Dale Fattig			DQ
Dan Kirkendoll			DQ
Arty Rogers			DQ
Gerry Beck	Kit 1 & 2 DNF, moved and couldn't get birds ready for competition 12 kits entered and 3 kits paid for under new region rules for a small or new region
Ontario Region		Judge Don Lunau
Name	Quality	Depth	Total
Jack Courts	1.4	1.4	276.36
Ken Miller	1.5	1.5	272.25
Frank Lyons	1.4	1.3	140.14
Santos Debartolo	1.3	1.3	101.40
Bill Reid	1.3	1.4	75.62
John Szczurko	Hawk Attack & didn't kit		DQ
Ron Reid	Hawk Attack & didn't kit		DQ
Al Donnelly	Not kitting		DQ
George Nickolav			DQ
Jay Lucarelli	Hawk Attack & didn't kit		DQ
Don Lunau	Judged Fly		DNF
Billy Terkalis	Falcons Cleaned him out		DNF
Ross Vito	Falcons Cleaned him out		DNF
Bruce Church	Moved and birds not settled		DNF
George Babaris	Passed away		DNF

Tri State Region

Judge Joe Testa

The New Tri State region was the result of Eric Fischer from Philadelphia PA. and his persistence in bringing the World Cup to his area,, There are many excelant roller fanciers that now have the opportunity to show what they have In national competition,, The NBRC fall fly will bring In even more good flyers out of Baltimore, New jersey and the Burroughs Of New York City,, The Bronx, Harlem and Brooklyn,, Where roller flying has all ways been strong,, But without representation,, these fanciers were left to their own Inner city competitions,, It did my heart good to see the excitement and energy from the competitors as we traveled from loft to loft,, They made It happen,, The weather played an Important role In how this competition turned out,, I had seen good kits and kits with a lot of potential for the future, The attitude with these roller fanciers was where Its supposed to be,, I want to thank you all for making my stay worth the trip,, Joe T

1,Elwood Gottlieb, - 158.4,,, Kit was outstanding In torrential rain and wind,, (Qualified)

2, Ed Young,, 111.54,,,,,2 birds out hurt this excelant kit,

3, Dave Six,,,- 60.5,,,,, heavy rain hurt this kit,, Good potential for the fall fly,,

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4, Eric Fischer,,,32.76,,,Had to fly stock birds to make the count,, Hawks decimated his kit,,

5, Sam Saieva,,,25.35,,, Kit came out cooking,, Thermals took the kit out of judging range,,

6,Scott Rice,,12.1,,, torrential rain destroyed this kit,, But they did the time,,

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7, Dale Harshman,, DNF,hawks eliminated kit,.,,

8, Terry Duez,, No score,- Young bird Kit,,, This Kit will score big time In the future,,

9, Norman Brozovich,, No score, 2 birds down,,, some good birds,, bad luck,,

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10, Eric Fischer, Kit , 2, DQ,

11, Ed Young, Kit , 2, DQ,

12, Elwood Gottlieb, Kit, 2, DQ,

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13, Terry Duez, Kit 2, DQ

14, Norman Brozovich, Kit 2, DQ

East Region

Judge Brian Middaugh

Fly Report

First of all I would like to thanks Dave and Yolanda Szabatura for being such gracious host. There hospitality was above and beyond any standards. Dave I also wanted to thank your for all the driving you did, a lot of time and miles bud. During the 5 days that my wife and I were there, there wasnt a dull moment.

I also wanted to say to all the guys that flew in the region. Thank you all, seen some excellent birds and some great flyers. Everyone in this region deserves a pat on the back. Because at any given time either one of you can be at the top.

Im going to do something a little different I am going to post my best of and then the scores:

Winning Kit: Dave Szabatura
Best individual bird: Dave Szabatura a yellow check white flight and Bert Schweigert a red check self.

Deepest Kit: Bert Schweigert
Most impressive kit to judge: Bert Scheigert, Great Valley N.Y Kit had a nice depth for the entire kit. Easy to score and some really good quality.
Most Bizarre: Tom Duger, Hannibal N.Y. Had a roller dropping deep and On the last spin acted like it passed out or died and landed in the pond. I dont know if he ever found it or not.

Name	Raw	Quality	Depth	Breaks	Total
Dave Szabatura Team B	117	1.4	1.4	8-9-7-12-6-6-13-12 / ns / 7 / ns	229.32
Steve Smith	86	1.3	1.4	5-8-11-5-9-6 / 6-6-8 / ns / 5-6	156.52
Bert Schweigert	61	1.4	1.5	6-5-5-6 / 5-5-5-7-7 / 5 / 5	128.1
John Lawrence	57	1.4	1.4	5-5 / 7-5-10-5-5 / ns / 5	111.72
Frank Gabriel	42	1.3	1.4	5-6 / 5 / 5-5 / 6-5-5	76.44
Dave Szabatura Team A	28	1.3	1.3	5-5 / 7 / 5 / 6	47.32
Rob Thayer	27	1.0	1.1	5 / 6-6-5-5 / ns / ns	29.7
Tom Duger	16	1.2	1.3	5 / ns / 6 / 5	24.96
Don Dulmer Team A	11	1.3	1.3	ns / ns / 6-5 / ns	18.59
Keith Johncox	5	1.2	1.1	5 / ns / ns / ns	6.6
Ron Kumro	0	0	0	0	0
Bill Tyler	0	0	0	0	0
John Weatherbee Don Dulmer					D.Q D.Q
Angelo Nastov					DNF
Jason Nastov					DNF
Harry Hellwig					DNF

New Mexico Region

Judge Jim Schneider

New Mexico Region

This is the Fly Report for the NM Region of the WC Fly:

Flyer Raw Q D X Total Fly time

Larry Boggan 93 1.4 1.4 1.93 182.3 20 min

Nice kit, missed several 3 and 4 bird breaks, winds starting to pick up.

Jerry Saiz DQ

Winds picking up, some individuals working but the kit came down early. 4 min

Allen Wilson DQ

Kit flew 7 minutes but winds were picking up stronger 7 min

Larry Boggan DQ 5 min

Kit down early due to winds.

Ken Easley 148 1.6 1.5 2.4 355.2 18:40 min

Some good quality spin, NO wind. One 10 and 2-11 bird breaks. 2 birds hit and one down early.

Ken Easley No Score

Young kit in training and not scorable.

Victor Babilonia 26 1.4 1.4 1.93 50.2 20 min

Missed a dozen or more 4 bird breaks, didnt have the timing in the breaks for the 5th bird.

Victor Babilonia No Score 20 min

Kit had a couple of nice individuals, but didnt work together.

Bob Peterson No Score

15 bird kit and 1 bird wouldnt go up.

Ronnie Knapp 15 1.4 1.4 1.93 29 20 min

Wind blew the kit around, had one really good RR bird. 15 birds, missed some breaks with 2 out

Marla Tarter No Score 6:40 min

Winds kept birds down to almost 5 off the ground.

Bob Peterson 23 1.3 1.2 1.56 35.9 20 min

High winds blew kit around and hurt breaks. Birds kitted excellent

Burt Poulton 22 1.3 1.3 1.69 37.2 20 min

Winds not too bad, but kit blew off.

Robert Contreras 128 1.5 1.5 2.25 288 20 min.

Nice working kit. Missed a couple of important breaks due to 2 birds out.

Robert Contreras No Score

Young kit not active but hit by hawk and went up out of sight.

Jim Schneider

NM Rollers

N. Rocky Mountain Region

Judge Ivan Hanchett

The Rocky Mountain region fly

I would like to express my deepest thanks to all those in the rocky mountain region that made me feel right at home. A special thanks to Brent Martindale and Doc Rienman for shuttling me around and a very special thanks to Beaver Dayton and his family for their hospitality and Ken Billings and his wife Brenda.

My thanks to Gary Barres for transporting me from deer lodge to Dubois Idaho and then back to Polson Montana. Rick Schoening and his family including Rich Hayes for all the laughs and good times. You guys are the best.

Stuart Brown for picking me up at the spokane airport and opening up his home to me. All those wifes behind the scenes I tip my hat to you all. The following is a rundown on all the scores.

Dennis Hayes 7,9,5,10,6,6,8,12,8,5,6,5,7,9,6,/10,7,8,6,10,7,10,/8,11,12,12,10,5,5,/9,6,5,5,6,9,7,12 Total 906.75 Q1.5XD1.5 Qualified

Rick Schoening 12,6,5,7,6,5,8,9,6,/10,9,7,8,9,7,8,/10,7,11,/12,5,10 Total 580.8 Q1.6XD1.5 Qualified

Gary Barres 6,9,7,8,6,5,5,6,7,6,/7,7,5,10,10,7,7,/7,5,9,9,8,7,6,5,5,6,5,6,10 Total 462.56 Q1.4XD1.4

Dennis Hayes Kit #2 5,5,5,5,6,10,5,9,8,/9/5,8,10,/11,7,5,9,9,7,6 Total 343 Q1.4D1.4

Brent Martindale 10,10,6,11,6,8,9,5,7,5,5,7,7,6,5,5,6 Total 335.25 Q1.5XD1.5

Beaver Dayton 7,7,5,8,9,5,7,5,9,5,5,6,6,5,5,5,5,10,5,5,5 Total 291.9 Q1.4X1.5

Ken Billings 7,9,10,8,5,11,10,5,5,5 Total 254.4 Q1.5XD1.6

Liam Schoening 5,6,5,5,5,5,5,5,/5,5,8,5,5,6,6,/5,5,5,6,7,8,8,/5,5,6,5,6 Total 248.43

Q1.3XD1.3

Jim Sargeant 6,5,5,6,5,7,5,5,5,5,7,6,5,5,6,7,5 Total 186.2 Q1.4XD1.4

Clay Palamides 5,/5,7,9,9,8,13,/9,9,8 Total 172.9 Q1.4XD1.3

John Farr 5,7,5,5,7,7,6,/6,9,/5,6,5/5 Total 121.68 Q1.3XD1.2

Mike Danielson 7,5,5,6,5/6,5,5,5,6,7 Total 89.28 Q 1.2XD1.2

Ron Phelps 6,10,8,5,7 Total 86.19 Q1.3XD1.3

Ken Billings #2 8,9,8,7 Total 67.2 Q1.4XD1.5

Stuart Brown 8,5,5,7,9,6 Total 57.6 Q1.2XD1.2

Beaver Dayton #2 6,5,6,5,7 Total 56.84 Q1.4XD1.4

Jim Sargeant #2 5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5 Total 54.45 Q1.1XD1.1

Rick Schoening #2 7,7,7,6 Total 45.63 Q1.3XD1.3

Harry Voth 5,5,5,5,7,5,5, Total 44.77 Q1.1XD1.1

Doc Reinman 6,7,5,7 Total 39 Q1.3XD1.2

Henry DeBoer 5,5,5,5,5 Total 30.25 Q1.1XD1.1

John Sargeant 5,6,5 Total 27.04 Q1.3XD1.3

Mike Hurley 5,5,5,5 Total 26.04 Q1.1XD1.2

The following Kits DQd BrentMartindale, Mike Danielson, Doc Reinman, Clay Palamides

The following DNF because of loss to predation or severe weather: Steve Holton 2 Kits and Ron Phelps

Mahalo Ivan K Hanchett

Southern California North Region

Judge Steve Smith

Participant:	Birds:	Raw:	Qual:	Depth:	Total:	Comments:
Ali Daniels #1	20	0			0.00	Too Windy
Ali Daniels #2	16	5	1.3	1.2	7.80
Alonzo Cano	20	98	1.4	1.4	192.08
Alton Davis #1	20	184	1.5	1.4	386.40
Alton Davis #2					0.00	dnf/predator-not enough birds
Andre Pettway	16	11	1.2	1.3	17.16
Maurilio Hernandez	20	19	1.4	1.4	37.24
Bob Southall	18	74	1.3	1.3	125.06
Bobby Clayton	16	21	1.3	1.3	35.49
Calvin Johnson #1	20	33	1.1	1.2	43.56
Calvin Johnson #2	20	63	1.3	1.2	98.28
Craig Wiggs	16	0			0.00
Dale Calvillo	17	10	1.3	1.1	14.30
Darik McGhee	16	64	1.3	1.4	116.48
Derrick Simon	20	61	1.5	1.4	128.10
Donny Faison	20	119	1.4	1.4	233.24
Gary Terrell					0.00	dnf/predator-not enough birds
George Ruiz					0.00	dnf/predator-not enough birds
Greg Anderson	20	25	1.4	1.5	52.50
Guy Robertson	17	45	1.3	1.2	70.20
Hank Lumpkins	20	216	1.5	1.5	486.00
Jack Tidsdale	18	79	1.4	1.4	154.84
James McDowell	17	15	1.2	1.2	21.60
Joe Espitia #1	20	0			0.00	Hawk attack
Joe Espitia #2					0.00	dnf/predator-not enough birds
John Masquera	16	10	1.3	1.2	15.60
John Moore	16	19	1.3	1.3	32.11
Juan Navarro	16	36	1.3	1.3	60.84
Keith London	20	229	1.4	1.3	416.78
Kevin Brokenbough	20	67	1.5	1.4	140.70
Marvin Parks					0.00	dnf/predator-not enough birds
Mike Walton	20	72	1.3	1.2	112.32
Mondo Martinez	16				0.00	dsq-landed
Monique Tuckett					0.00	dnf/predator-not enough birds
Raul Washington	20	32	1.3	1.4	58.24
Reggie Stewart #1	20	206	1.3	1.3	348.14
Reggie Stewart #2	20	87	1.3	1.3	147.03
Robert Felix	20	5	1.2	1.1	6.60
Robert Rodriguez	20	15	1.5	1.5	33.75
Ron Anno	20	112	1.3	1.3	189.28
Steven Russell	15	13	1.3	1.4	23.66
Steven Smith					0.00	dnf/predator-not enough birds
Tavo Quezada	20	13	1.5	1.3	25.35
Terrance Riley					0.00	dnf/predator-not enough birds
Terry Duncan	15	5	1.3	1.2	7.80
Tim Paustan #1	16	95	1.3	1.2	148.20
Tim Paustan #2	20	0			0.00
Victor Garcia	20	88	1.3	1.3	148.72
Willie Wright	20	5	1.3	1.3	8.45

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North Central East

Judge Dave Goss

2004 World Cup

It was an honor to be invited to judge your region. Your warm hospitality made my trip most enjoyable. I would like to thank everyone that took care of me along the way. Dave Goss

I would like to add a couple comments. I was happy that our region was able to show Dave some excellent kits. For a while it didnt look like that would happen. The weather prevented some fine kits from being able to show their stuff. Several flyers put their kits up in wind and/or rain that simply destroyed any chance they had of scoring. Enough whining about the weather. The best thing about our regional fly: Dave Goss. As many already know, Dave is an exceptionally knowledgeable roller man and an exceptional human being. Thanks Dave. The honor was all ours. Devoe Manning

Name

Quality

Depth

Total

Jimmy Goetz

1.5

326.25

Wendell Spisak #2

1.3

1.2

258.96

Wendell Spisak

1.2

1.1

175.56

Wayne Wagner

1.3

145.34

Richard Miller

1.4

1.3

131.04

Wayne Smith

1.4

129.36

Richard Miller #2

1.2

83.52

Devoe Manning

1.2

1.4

73.92

Jerry Dunn

1.3

1.2

65.52

Carl Hardesty

1.1

1.0

35.2

Willard Bolton

1.0

Clyde Davis

1.3

1.5

27.3

Ted Peoples

1.0

Bob Hord

1.0

Jim Cook

1.0

Dave Field

1.1

1.0

Randy Steepleton

1.4

9.8

Kip Beard

1.0

Robert Chamberlin

1.0

Jim Feasel

1.0

Troy Copeland

Randy Owen

Randy Owen #2

Keith Hughey

Bob Larcher

Bruce Jackson

Kenneth Walter

Ralph Cowgill

Dennis Cowgill

Dennis Cowgill # 2

Bob Munson

DNF

Colorado Region

Judge Lenny Vialpando

Name

Quality

Depth

Total

Alan Dewey

1.3

121.68

Merve Miller

1.3

1.2

67.08

Jim Shumway

1.4

1.3

63.70

Phil Ramsteck

1.3

1.2

63.69

Marco Solorio # 2

1.3

1.1

61.49

Merve Miller

1.2

21.6

Rosie Vauling

Marco Solorio

Elmer Walker

Everett Carlson

Ed Wagner

Randy Adams

Phil Ramsteck # 2

Glen Mcmurl

N. Central West Region

Judge Brent Martindale


Jerry Green	18	top quality birds, clean breaks	1.5	1.5	204.75
		8 5 6 5 5 6 10 5 7 9 5 5 5 = 91 raw

Rick Orme	20	worked good, short	1.1	1.0	97.90
		6 5 5 6 5 7 6 8 5 5 6 8 5 7 5 = 89 raw

Dick Kollmann	19	breezy, good individuals	1.3	1.2	79.56
		5 5 5 5 5 6 5 5 5 5 = 51 raw

Dave Gehrke	17	5 working together, nice black	1.3	1.2	78.00
		5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 = 50 raw

Brian Brueggemeier	19	nice conditions	1.3	1.3	62.53
		5 5 5 6 6 5 5 = 37 raw

John Johnson	19	breezy, some very deep	1.3	1.3	45.63
		5 5 5 7 5 = 27 raw

Mel Stalzer	16	deep birds	1.3	1.5	42.90
		6 5 5 6 = 22 raw

Harold Ryan	20	no breeze, birds stiff	1.3	1.3	37.18
		6 5 6 5 = 22 raw

Gary Thompson	20	breezy, good individual	1.3	1.2	24.96
		6 5 5 = 16 raw

Jim Peterson	16	breezy	1.1	1.0	22.00
		5 5 5 5 = 20 raw

K C Kumerow	19	windy	1.1	1.0	11.10
		5 5 =10 raw

Tom Akeson	16	windy, first fly	1.1	1.0	5.50
		5 = 5 raw

Ward Zuelsdorf	20	windy, no chance	1.1	1.0	5.50
		5 = 5 raw

Brian Brueggemeier #2	16	did not work	0	0.0	0.00
		no score

Cliff Carrol	16	never got together	0	0.0	0.00
		no score

Ken Bibby	20	birds didn't get together	0	0	0.00
		D.Q. 11:45 left

Ron Moon	18	no breeze, birds wouldn't get up	0	0	0.00
		D.Q. 13:45 left

Rick Orme #2		did not fly	0	0	0.00
		no score

Bill Bird		did not fly due to an overfly	0	0	0.00
		no score

Dave Gehrke ask me to judge the North Central West region a couple of years ago and finally I agreed. I did not know what I was in for. My 2-hour flight turned into a 12-hour marathon getting to Minnesota. Once I got there I met lots of fine roller fliers. These fliers are dedicated to the hobby and know how to treat a judge right. I enjoyed myself and would not hesitate to go back again. We did travel a lot of miles but the roller conversations in the car made the traveling very easy. I saw some nice kits and some good birds while I was there. I want to thank Dave Gehrke, Ron Moon. Mel Stalzer, Harold Ryan, Tom Akeson, John Johnson, Brian Brueggemeier, and Dick Kollmann for feeding me or putting me up for the night and driving me all over the place. Thank you for the opportunity to meet everybody and see some good birds.

Brent Martindale

DENMARK

Judge Henning Pedersen

E. LAIDLER

1.5

1.4

126

J. HANSEN

1.5

1.4

111.3

F. CATAK

1.5

74.25

J. ROSENGREEN

1.4

70.56

. E. NIELSEN

1.2

38.88

B. JENSEN

1.2

23.04

P. CHRISTENSEN

1.0

F. SABIC

H. SORENSEN

DNF

S. CHRISTENSEN

DNF

I.SORENSEN

DNF

K.JONASEN

DNF

E.KOZARCANIN

DNF

S. NIELSEN

DNF

H. SMAKIC

DNF

2004 WORLD CUP REGIONAL FLY DENMARK.

Finding a date for our Qualifier was not easy, as April and May are busy months because there is allways a family member or friend that is having a Conformation, to go to, it is a big thing here in Denmark. Anyway we agreed to have the fly on the 8th & 9th of May and take it from there.

We were to start at Edin Kozarcanin, but due to a misunderstanding Edin did not have enough birds to fly, we used to fly 12 birds in our local competions, so Edin only had 12 birds the rest where in the breeding loft.

So off we went to Poul Christensen, Poul flew a kit of early bred young birds, they flew slow and with a good fly pattern but most of the action was just tumbling, they need more time to develop.

Next flyer was Egon Nielsen, Egon released his kit in ideal weather, overcast with a little breeze, the birds were active the first 5 mins then they just went flat, his neighbours racing pigeons did not help matters.

Then it was off to Borge Jensen, Borge also had good weather conditions, birds flew at a good height and they were active but they were just mucking about, they lacked quality and depth to score more.

Last flyer of the day was Jorgen Hansen, it has been awhile since I last saw Jorgen`s birds and he flew a nice kit, they flew at a good height, some times a little low, there was a little brz cheq badge hen that was coming deep, she nearly hit the roof a couple of times, the kit was working, a lot of following thru but also some nice breaks, lost a couple of breaks because of out birds.

The next day we met at Ferid Catak`s, Ferid has been looking after his brother in laws birds, Ferid Sabic who was in Bosnia visiting family, Ferid Sabic has just moved to a new house so he now has his lofts on the same allotments but on the other side from Ferid Catak, so we went over and released Ferid Sabic`s kit, the birds are settled in at the new place but today they decided to go and revisit the old place and there they flew for an hour, we went back to Ferid Catak`s loft and waited for the other kit to come back and land, the kit did come back and some birds did land but there was still about 10 to 12 birds flying around, we had waited 3 hours in all and time was now getting on, so Ferid Catak had to release his kit, everything went well the first 5 mins or so and then the inevitable happened the 2 kits clashed, there were birds all over the place, they did not fly as one kit, there was nothing we could do but push on.

Next flyer was Jorgen Rosengreen, Jorgen released his kit and they started off well and then they started to fly low and dart fast around the house tops, the weather was OK, needless to say that Jorgen was at a loss as to why, they have never done it before.

Last to fly was yours truly Eric Laidler, the weather was OK and the kit flew at a good height, the birds worked the first 10 mins, here again alot of following thru and individual rolling, then they just went quiet for the next 10 mins.

The following flyer`s could not fly.

Hans Sorensen phoned on the morning of the fly to say that he could not fly due to family commitments.

Just a couple of weeks before the fly Svend Nielsen,Steen Christensen and Ingemann Sorensen had all lost birds due to the mist, this mist is treacherous, you can release the birds in a clear blue sky and then the mist just rolls in under them and covers the ground like a blanket, the birds do not have a chance.

Kristian Jonasen and Hasim Smakic also phoned in to say they could not fly, Hasim had to take his son to play football and Kristian had to work.

Again our thanks to Henning Pedersen for judging,

Hilsen Eric Laidler.

Nor Cal Coastal Region

Judge: Ken Firl

WC Regional Fly

May 22/23, 2004

Fly Order	Flyer	Raw	Qual	Dep	Total
1	Nick Burcher				DNF
	Extreme falcon problem. 4 attacks in last 5 days. Only 10 old birds left.
2	Nick Burcher #2 DNF
3	Jay Branch	7,5,5 = 17	1.2	1.3	26.52
	18 birds. Out Birds hurt a bit. Birds flew a bit high.
4	Jay Branch #2 DNF
5	Ron Mann	0			0
	20 birds. Strong wind kept birds from cutting loose. Excellent white bird and several quality spinners.
6	Ron Mann #2 DNF
7	Mike Polan	5,5,5,5,5=25	1.1	1.0	27.5
	19 birds. Nice Red Check. 1 bird down at 8:25.
8	Mike Polan #2 DNF
9	Mike Allen	5 = 5	1.2	1.2	7.2
	20 birds. Wind blew birds out of judging range. 1:35 time out. Birds blown south again.
10	Mike Allen #2 DNF
11	Jimmy Slack Williams	7 = 7	1.2	1.2	10.08
	20 birds. Out birds hurt. Some nice spin. 1 bird down 14:22.
12	Jimmy Slack Williams #2 DNF
13	Michael McMillan	5 = 5	1.2	1.2	7.2
	17 birds. Out birds hurt score. Real nice Blue check White mid tail.
14	Michael McMillan #2 DNF
15	Mike Wolden	6,5,5,12,7,6,7,9,6,5,6,8,5 = 99	1.3	1.3	167.31
	18 birds. Nice kit. Best teamwork of the fly. Quality and depth improved as the fly progressed.
16	Mike Wolden #2 DNF
17	Gerardo Campo				DNF
	Lost 40 birds March May to Redtails and Coopers. Only 10 birds left.
18	Gerardo Campo #2 DNF
19	Thomas Wright	0			0
	20 birds. Young kit flying in 20 mph wind. Good kitting but not enough depth to score.
20	Thomas Wright #2 DNF
21	Johnny Osbourne	0			0
	20 birds. Stiff wind. 5 minute time out. Too windy too roll. Birds were breaking after time expired and wind let up a bit.
22	Johnny Osbourne #2 DNF
23	Ronnie Ross	5 = 5	1.1	1.1	6.05
	18 birds. Birds were going in 2s and 3s.
24	Ronnie Ross #2	5,5,5 = 15	1.1	1.2	19.8
	19 birds. Real nice black. Wind kept them from working.
DAY 2
25	Don Ouellette	5,7,6,5,7,7,7,6,5,5,6,6,7,10,6,8,7 = 120	1.4	1.4	235.2
	17 birds. Birds flew a bit high which hurt score. Lost 1 break due to out birds.
26	Ramsey Ajlouni	7,5,6,5,5,5,6,6 = 45	1.2	1.2	64.8
	19 birds. Birds were very busy. Went too high last 7 minutes.
27	Mohammad Sedigh	5 = 5	1.1	1.2	6.6
	Birds looked like they were going to score but went very high. A lot of potential here.
28	Mohammed Sedigh #2 DNF
29	Don Ouellete	5,5,6,6,8 = 30	1.3	1.4	54.6
	17 birds. Birds down at 17:50. Cock kit.
30	Chris Ouellete	6			DQ
	17 birds. Birds down at 5:09.
31	Chris Ouellette #2 DNF
32	Jimmy Hill	0			0
	17 birds. 2 out birds most of the time cost a couple of breaks.
33	Manny Manion				DQ
	19 birds. Down at 7 minutes. Nice Dark Check white tail mark. Very young kit.
34	Manny Manion #2 DNF
35	Todd Meyers	5 = 5	1.1	1.1	1.21
	20 birds. 1 bird out entire fly. Nice fast dark check. Young kit.
36	Todd Meyers #2 DNF
37	Robert Rives	0			0
	18 birds. Out birds except for the final minute. Nice Dark W/W.
38	Robert Rives #2 DNF
39	Dennis Early				DNF
	Did not fly due to birds of prey. 14 or 15 birds left. 9 birds lost in the last 2 weeks.
40	Dennis Early #2 DNF
41	Brent Timeus	5,6,5 = 16	1.1	1.1	19.36
	16 birds. Strong wind hurt chances.
42	Brent Timeus #2 DNF
43	Robert Krenz	7,8,5,6,5 = 31	1.3	1.1	44.33
	18 birds. Nice kit. Flew tight and broke together. Very nice dark check.
44	Robert Krenz #2 DNF
45	Ramsey Ajlouni	7,8,7,5,8,5,5,12,7,9,6,5 = 106	1.3	1.4	192.82
	20 birds. Nice kit performed well in a stiff breeze. Broke well together. A bit flat the last 10 minutes.

Southern California

Judge Ken Easley

2004 World Cup Regional Southern California Results

Director, Marshall Duncan

1. Dewayne Holmes - 17 birds - 20 minutes No scorable breaks - Score 0

2. Brian McCormick 20 birds 20 minutes 1.5 Q x 1.2 D - Score 28.8

He had four fast birds with one real dandy.

3. Van Copple 18 birds 20 minutes - No scorable breaks - Score 0

4. Marshall Duncan 20 birds 20 minutes 1.2 Q x 1.2 D - Score 8.64

Had out birds.

5. Tim Decker 18 birds 20 minutes 1.3 Q x 1.1 D Score 82.94

A very nice Black M/F with rubber band return

6. Abel Ibarra 20 birds birds down at 10:09 - 31 raw with 1.2 x 1.2 DQ

7. Joe Bower 20 birds landed at 17:53 1.2 Q x 1.1 D Score 27.72

Hawk on the prowl and heat rising.

8. Robert Parker 20 birds 20 minutes 1.1 Q x 1.0 D Score 53.9

The heat was rising and the birds went really high and flew into the sun.

I could not access the quality and depth well enough to award any more.

A couple of breaks were very high up and directly in the sun.

I just couldnt count them properly on those breaks. It was all I could do to see them circling the sun at that heigth.

9. Sal Ortiz 19 birds 19 minutes 1.0 Q x 1.0 D Score 10

10. Richard Reyes 20 birds 20 minutes 1.0 Q x 1.0 D Score 18

11. Randy Gibson 19 birds 20 minutes 1.0 Q x 1.2 D Score 30

The wind was blowing too hard. Randy waited until it was very dim and becoming dark and it still blew.

I couldnt see the birds good enough to allow any more Q and D.

What I did manage to see well when they first came out was not the best rolling due to wind and flying low.

12. Eddie Verdugo 20 birds 20 minutes 1.0 Q x 1.4 D Score 14

A deep dark check

13. Peter Gamez 18 birds 20 minutes 1.0 Q x 1.0 D Score 5

Nice Black

13. Tony Culpepper 20 birds 20 minutes 1.3 Q x 1.3 D 33.8

14. J. J. Ransom - 20 birds Flew 18:45 1.25 Q x 1.2 D Score 18

15. Jerry Higgins 20 birds 20 minutes 1.4 Q x 1.3 D Score

These birds would have worked better with less heat. Nice red spangle.

16. Mike Macias 20 birds 20 minutes 1.0 Q x 1.0 D Score 20

Nice young bird kit.

17. Harold Ransom - 20 birds - flew 17 minutes - Score 0

Went too high.

18. Chefner Moore - 20 birds - flew 2 minutes - DQ

19. Mike Johnson - 20 birds - flew 11 minutes - DQ

20. J.J. Ransom # 2 - 20 birds - flew 3 minutes - DQ

21. Eddy Verdugo - 20 birds - flew 14:31 minutes - DQ

22. Jay Holman - Lost his team in overfly and could not fly

23. Kevin London - Lost his team in an overfly and could not fly.

24. Manuel Moreno - 20 birds - 20 minutes - 1.1 Q x1.0 D - Score 29.7

24. Sam Brito - 20 birds - 20 minutes - 1.0 Q x 1.4 D - Score 29.4

Birds flew extremely high and in the sun some of the time, they were working but it was all I could do just to see them.

25. Richard Apadaca - 20 birds - 20 minutes - 1.0 Q X 1.0 D - Score 21

26. Ray Collins - 20 birds - 20 minutes - 1.2 Q x 1.3 D - Score 31.2

Nice Black

27. Nick Buckhalter - 20 birds - flew 9:47 - DQ

28. Manuel Moreno # 2 - 20 birds - 20 minutes - 1.0 Q x 1.2 D - Score 6

29. Kevin Thompson - 20 birds - flew 19:13 - 1.1 Q x 1.0 D - Score 11

30. Jose Louis Lorenzo - 20 birds- 20 minutes - 1.4 Q x 1.4 Depth - Score 282.24

19 breaks. This was a very nice kit that work well together with instant breaks with good sensitivity.

Easy to count balled up rolling with nice speed and no flopping. Clean well managed team that I enjyed watching and judging.

31. Ron Duncan - 20 birds - 20 minutes - 1.2 Q x 1.1 Q - Score 35.64.

32. Abel Ibarra # 2. Did not fly

33. Tim Decker # 2 - 16 birds - 20 minutes - 1.3 Q x 1.3 D - Score 8.45

Nice white and black flecked bird and also a red check W/E hen that worked like a horse the whole time.

34. Marshall Duncan # 2 - 19 birds - flew 14:25 minutes - DQ

35. Brian McCormick # 2 - 19 birds - 20 minutes - 1.2 Q x 1.0 D - Score 43.2

I had a great time and want to thank all those who flew and spent time on the fly such as Marshall Duncan

who did an excellent job of coordinating the fly, also Big John Destout for taking me in and hauling me around the whole fly,

except for a short time spent with Jerry Higgins.

A big Thanks to Randy Gibson who put on a BBQ that was outstanding in every way,

the view, his lovely wife and home was opened to us all.

East Yorkshire Region

Judge Peter Harper

Name

Quality

Depth

Total

Qualifier

P. Larven

1.3

113.32

G.Templeman

1.4

1.1

78.54

S. Huter

1.3

1.1

64.35

M.Huter

1.3

1.2

51.48

E.Mahoney

1.2

1.0

13.2

B.Shackleton

1.0

E.Mahoney

1.1

1.0

5.5

R.Norris

D.larven

B.shackleton

G. Templeman

DNF

B. Fawless

DNF

D Start

DNF

P. Wood

DNF

P. Beharaled

DNF

M.Bilton

DNF

I was hoping the weather was going to be good for the lads in the hull region, the last few years there have 30-mile hour winds. The fly started at Barry Shackletons, the weather was perfect, a slight breeze and clear sky's. Barrys released the first off his 2 kits he was flying, the birds lifted very quick to fast for 2 of the birds who stay out off the kit and dropped after 11 minutes, not a good start to the day. Next to fly was Peter larvin, after the usual cup off tea Pete put up a kit of 20 old birds, the kit worked very well for the first 8 minutes butt missed a lot off breaks with having out birds, the kit still scored 113.23 points. Next on the list was Eddy Mahoney. Eddys kit lifted high and where off the clock for the full 5minutes, the kit was very quite only scoring 1 break off 5.with a short trip to Ron Norris, Rons birds scored 1 break off 6 before dropping after 12 minutes. Mark hunter was the next flyer, mark released a kit off 17 yearlings, the kit flew at a good judging height, the birds started well scoring 4 breaks in the first 7 minutes then went quite. After a lunch break myself and Barry returned to marks house to fly his wife's kit, Sarah was very nerves, Sarah released a kit off 19 birds, the kit come out looking like there where going to knock up a big score, yet again the kit went quite after 9 minutes after scoring 9 breaks, at least she beat her husbands score. Peter larven s son was next to fly, the kit started very well scoring 3 breaks in the first 2 minutes, the kit lifted very high, 2 birds dropped after 13 minutes. Back to eddys Mahoney hoping for a better show out of this kit, the kit scored 2 breaks, then out birds stopped the kit from scoring. Gary Templeman was next to fly, Gary's kit started very well, scoring some good breaks, looking like there where going to score really well. Then the kit came down to low for them to score any breaks. Last to fly was Barry Shackleton, Barry released his kit and within a minute the birds went to high to judge. I really enjoyed judging the competition; maybe the weather was to good for the men and women off hull as most off the kits lifted to high.

Congratulations to Peter Larven, on winning the east Yorkshire region and I wish you all the best in the finale Pete. I would like to congratulate Barry on a job well done as regional director, the whole fly went as smooth as clockwork. Thank you to mark, Sarah, Peter. Ron, Gary and Barry for there company around the competition.

Yours in sport and friendship Peter Harper.

Northwest International

Judge Dave Szabatura

by Dave Szabatura

It was a great honor to be asked to judge the 2004 Northwest International Fly/Northwest World Cup Regional Fly. The Northwest International Fly gave birth to the World Cup and it was a thrill being able to judge this prestigious competition.

I had never been to the Northwest before and the scenery was breath-taking and the people were fantastic. I especially want to thank my host Ivan Hanchett and his wonderful wife Kani. They are great people and good friends of mine. Ivan is one of the top roller men in this country and he is an encyclopedia of roller knowledge. Kani flew in her first World Cup competition. She has really caught the roller bug and she has a very good teacher to help her along. Thanks guys for taking such good care of me, I had a blast!

I also want to thank Brian Krog and his wife Leanne, for putting us up in their lovely home in Canada. They have a wonderful place and they made us feel right at home.

Casey Strzelewicz won the Northwest International Fly and Ivan Hanchett came in second place. Casey and Ivan both qualified for the World Cup finals from their region, and just missing was Brian Felty in third place. The top 3 flyers all flew well managed kits, which were frequent, broke together well, and flew at a good height for their entire fly. These 3 guys definitely distanced themselves from the pack. Here are the final scores:

Casey Strzelewicz --- (20 birds) 5-7-5-5-7-9-7-5-7-5-6-5 / 8-10-8-9-13-5-5 / 7-5-7-6-8-9-5 = 201 raw x 1.5 Q x 1.4 D = 422.1 total (Qualified for finals)

This was a fun kit to watch. Good action during the entire fly. Lost some breaks on out birds. Kit almost DQd when second bird landed in tree at 15 minutes 2 seconds.

Ivan Hanchett --- (19 birds) 7-5-6-9-5-7-5-5-6-6-5 / 5-8-6-8-6-7-7 / 8-6-5-9-5-6-5-8 / 5-8-6 = 184 raw x 1.4 Q x 1.3 D = 334.88 total (Qualified for finals)

Nice solid active kit. I saw this same kit fly 2 days later and they did at least twice as good as on fly day. This kit could do well in finals.

Brian Felty --- (15 birds) 7-5-5-5-6-5-5-7-5-5-5-6-5 / 5-5-6-5-5-10 / 5-6-6-5 / 5-6 = 150 raw x 1.4 Q x 1.4 D = 294 total

This was a good kit with strong breaks. This was a well managed kit that, because of falcon losses, was down to the bare minimum 15 birds. A few more breaks would have put him in the finals.

Gary Stephens --- (18 birds) 5-5-7-5-5-5-5 / 5-5-6-7 / 8-7-7 / 8-7 = 97 raw x 1.4 Q x 1.3 D = 176.54 total

Kit got scared up out of judging height by a redtail hawk, 3 minute time-out taken. Many 3 to 4 bird breaks hurt score.

Ken Westlund --- (18 birds) 6-5-5-7-5 / 5-5-6-5 / 5-7-5 / 5 = 71 raw x 1.2 Q x 1.3 D = 110.76 total

Kit flew a good pattern. Too many waterfalls caused by birds breaking from back of kit.

Jack Smith --- (19 birds) 5-5-5-6-5 / 5-5-5-5 / 5 / 6-5 = 62 raw x 1.3 Q x 1.2 D = 96.72 total

There was a Blue Check and a Red Check that were very good.

Aaron Johnson --- (18 birds) 5-5-6-5-7 / 5 / 6-5 / 5-6 = 55 raw x 1.3 Q x 1.3 D = 92.95 total

Had the best performing, individual Neibel birds that I saw on this trip. Too many waterfalls caused by birds breaking from back of kit.

Les Bilyeau --- (20 birds) 5-5-7-5-5 / 7-5-5 / / 5 = 49 raw x 1.3 Q x 1.3 D = 82.81 total

Birds flew too high to judge for half of fly.

Linne Rose --- (20 birds) 8-6-5-6-7 / / / = 32 raw x 1.4 Q x 1.4 D = 62.72 total

Good speed and depth, but birds skied out and had 2 out-birds for most of fly.

Dan Applebury --- (20 birds) 5-5-8-5 / 5-5-5-5 / 5-5 / 5 = 58 raw x 1.0 Q x 1.0 D = 58 total

Minimum quality and depth to score. Birds need to break together better.

Dan Ouellette --- (17 birds) 7-5-5 / / 5-5 / 5 = 32 raw x 1.3 Q x 1.3 D = 54.08 total

Lost 4 breaks on out-birds, one bird was in tree at time-in.

Harry Pappagallo --- (19 birds) 5-5-5 / / / = 15 raw x 1.2 Q x 1.2 D = 21.6 total

Birds skied out of judging range after 5 minutes. Hawks soaring in area.

Phil Pauu --- (17 birds) / / 5 / 5 = 10 raw x 1.2 Q x 1.1 D = 13.2 total

A busy kit that needs to work together better. Birds need more depth.

H.C. Martin --- (17 birds) / 5 / / = 5 raw x 1.3 Q x 1.3 D = 8.45 total

Stiff kit that had only one break.

Darrel Norris --- (16 birds) 6 / / / = 6 raw x 1.1 Q x 1.1 D = 7.26 total

One bird flew away at start. Birds never got together.

Gary Stephens (2nd kit) --- (18 birds) Zero

Birds were stiff right from release, with a couple cocks clapping for entire fly.

Brian Krog --- (20 birds) Zero

Birds flew fast in hawk-mode for entire fly. Only one bird rolled during fly.

Bob Hill --- (20 birds) 5 / / D.Q. at 14 min

Birds flew in defensive mode.

Al Hunt --- (20 birds) 5 / / D.Q. at 12 min

Had some deep, fast birds. Kit never got together good.

Larry Racine --- (20 birds) 5 / 5 / D.Q. at 12 min

Good kitting, promising young birds.

Pete Kaufman --- (20 birds) 5-6-7-5-5-5-7 D.Q. at 9 min

Some very good spinners in this group. Out-birds lost 3 breaks.

Kani Hanchett --- (17 birds) D.Q. at 6 min

Some promising birds in this group of young birds.

Brad Santos --- (20 birds) 6 / D.Q. at 6 min

One bird out from start.

Herman Seftan --- (17 birds) 6 / D.Q. at 5 min

Some good individual birds. Birds never got up.

Mitch Reed --- (20 birds) D.Q. at time-in

These were 2 to 3 month old birds just starting to roll. 3 birds in tree at time-in.

Ken Westlund (2nd kit) --- D.Q. at time-in

Had less than 15 birds to fly at time-in.

Joe Barnett --- DNF in hospital

Matt Purvis --- DNF Lost his kit in overfly

Neville Eccles --- DNF Canadian Avian Flu

Dave Naud --- DNF Canadian Avian Flu

John Wiens --- DNF Canadian Avian Flu

South Central Region

Judge Eldon Cheney

Name

Quality

Depth

Total

Qualifier

Norman Herrin #1

1.6

1052.16

Danny Courtney #2

!.6

!.3

586.56

Jay Thibodeaux #1

1.6

1.4

490.56

Floyd Le Bouef

1.7

462.4

Aubrey Thibodeaux #2

1.5

1.4

420

Henry Cook

1.5

1.4

388.5

Aurbery Thibodeaux #1

1.3

1.2

341.64

Walt Thompson

1.6

1.4

329.28

Bobby Bradley #2

1.5

1.3

323.7

Leon Kocisco

1.5

1.2

288

Danny Courtney #1

1.4

1.2

250.32

Al Perron

1.3

135.2

Bobby Bradley #1

1.2

1.0

103.0

Jake Van Dyke

1.2

1.0

63.6

Allen Turcotte

1.4

1.2

31.92

Jay Thibodeaux #2

1.2

1.1

27.72

Norman Herrin #2

Sonny Hester

Ellis McDonald

Fred Windbigler

Great Britain Region

Judge George Frost

Name

Quality

Depth

Total

Qualifier

P. LYNAM

1.5

1.4

615.30

Qualifier

P. HANDY

1.6

1.5

585.60

G. DAFFURN

1.5

569.25

K. WILKINSON

1.5

1.4

537.60

T. HARPER

1.5

1.4

472.50

A. HAMILTON

1.4

373.36

K. WEAVER

1.5

1.4

359.10

S. FEARN

1.4

290.08

E. BAYNE

1.4

1.3

273.00

T. WEAVER

1.4

1.3

269.36

P. STRIPP

1.7

1.6

255.68

T. SLATER

1.4

252.84

T. BAGLEY

1.5

252.00

. M. BARWICK

1.4

1.3

232.96

L. DODDS

1.4

1.3

211.12

R. HALE

1.3

126.75

S. BUCKLEY

1.4

1.3

92.82

G. DAFFURN

1.3

91.26

W. GROVE

1.3

67.60

G. MASON

1.1

54.45

P. WILLIAMS

1.3

1.2

42.12

P. AHAMED

1.5

27.00

MOSELEY/BAINES

1.5

1.4

16.80

P. LEE

1.2

15.84

MOSELEY/BAINES

1.5

1.4

12.60

M. MANSER

1.2

8.64

G. BURGESS

1.2

1.1

6.60

J. WRIGHT

1.1

1.21

A. BAINBRIGGE

1.0

1.00

N. HACKETT

1.0

1.00

P. SISSONS

J. LENIHAN

S. McGLORY

J. HEAGUE

DNF

M. CRANNEY

DNF

By: - Paul A. Lee (European Coordinator)

Paul Lee, yours truly, was the first to fly in the 2004 World Cup qualifying round for the Central and South Regions.

The judge for this year, George Frost had arrived at my house the afternoon before the fly, after a four and a half hour trip from Middlesbrough, his van having broken down on the way. I should have been there to meet George but work had changed my shift to afternoons, so I didnt get home till 9pm. I had arranged for my mate Pete Petravicius to be at my house to keep George company until I got home.

It was my tenth year of running the World Cup in England and I was looking forward to it even more as I was flying first and had been able to fly and feed my birds ready for the competition. I am usually away on the fly and it is around three to four days before I get home to fly my kit, which means its usually potluck on how they perform.

Saturday morning at 0530hrs and Im out of bed to make the lads some sausage and tomato cobs for breakfast. I opened the bedroom curtains and I couldnt believe it, thick mist and heavy drizzle. After a couple of cups of tea and some snap we went down to the pigeon loft for the 0700hrs start, still in the mist and drizzle.

Out went the birds at 0700hrs and the kit hit the sky, but it was a complete waste of time with the mist level at around 30 feet above the house roofs. The birds flew low but I must say they flew a perfect figure of eight with a lovely wing beat and tight kiting but too low to work. They put a couple of halfhearted breaks in but most of the time they were not interested.

So it was cases in the boot of the car and out on the road for Aston on Trent, to judge Trevor Slaters kit. Trevors kit was released at 0820hrs in slight drizzle but a much higher ceiling, so the birds lifted to a good rolling height. The kit put three good breaks in over 10 but out birds spoilt the kits performance. This was the first time we have judged kits to the World Cup scoring system, so I was expecting lost scores because of out birds, as we dont penalise a kit with out birds in England as we have 20 kiting points to play with.

Next to fly was George Mason who lives right at the side of the river Trent at Swalkston, what a fantastic place to fly rollers. George was not at home because of work commitments but a good friend of his, Gordon Forbes (Fadge) was there to release his kit. The kit was released at 0900hrs in good flying conditions, blue sky with a little cloud cover. The birds flew low over the fields which made the breaks too loose to be scored, the birds knew that if they balled up at that height they would hit the deck. Then all of a sudden a big black Crow flew under the kit and it put the shits up them and they began to lift. As soon as they settled down they began to score with a total of 8 breaks. This kit also suffered loss of breaks with two out birds.

It was back in the motor and off to Sean Fearns to see what his kit could do, Sean released his kit at 1005hrs in good flying conditions. The birds worked well for the first 10 minutes, putting in 7 good breaks, two of which were 18 and 14. Only three more breaks were put in over the last 10 minutes, which was a real pity. After time was called Sean put on food and drink for all, which was greatly appreciated. Thanks Sean.

Andy Bainbrigge was next to fly on the agenda over at Melbourne. At the bottom of Andys garden you go through a gate onto some allotments over looking a valley, another fantastic area to fly rollers. The kit was released at 1130hrs and hit the sky; they kited well and were very frequent in the roll but too active to get it together. Once again flying low over the valley caused some loose rolling which couldnt be scored. Who said the judge couldnt be bribed!! The beer was great Andy.

We all piled into our cars once more and set off on the road to Kevin Wilkinsons at Hartshorne. I was looking forward to seeing this kit, as Kevin always seems to get it right on fly day with his birds. They were released at 1215hrs and showed their promise straight off. The kit put a total of 24 breaks in, of which 7 of those were breaks of 10 plus. Odd times we had two out birds but it didnt harm the final score, of a very active, quality kit of rollers.

This is where we left the main group of fanciers behind, as we were on our way to Peter Stripps at Northampton. Myself, George Frost, Steve McGlory and John Wright set off down the M1 south towards Northampton. I was looking forward to seeing Petes birds again as I hadnt seen them for around three years, due to Pete moving house and not flying in competition. Previous years Pete had always won through to the National Championships with his birds, so it was fingers crossed for a good show. Petes kit was released at 1445hrs, and straight away showed their potential. The kit lifted too high and at a distance at one point, so they were off the clock for 2 minutes. This was also another kit that two out birds damaged the final score but the quality and depth were fantastic, 1.7 x 1.6, best of the competition. Pete laid on some food for us all, which was more than welcome. Thanks Pete.

Theirs no rest for the wicked as they say, so it was back in the motor and on the road over to John Wrights on the fens, at Earith. Johns birds were out at 1645hrs, and when the birds came out they sounded like a flock of Swans taking off from water, the wing noise was that loud. It turned out John had left his drinker lids off and the birds had had a good bath in them. One bird dropped at 1 minute and out birds stopped Johns kit from putting any score on the sheet.

Back in the motor and off again to Steve McGorys place at Warboys. Steve released his kit at 1805hrs in good flying weather, but two birds just didnt want to play the game and landed early at 4 minutes on the clock, so that was that. Steves was the last kit of the day and we were staying at Steves for the night. Steve and his wife looked after us really well, with a big fish and chip supper; mine was that big it still had the harpoon in it!! After a few beers and watching a video I had taken of last years National Championships it was time to hit the sack. They put me in a room the furthest away from anyone else as they say I snore like a pig. Ive never heard myself, but it must be bad because when Monte Neable and me shared a room at George Kitsons place at Middlesbrough, Monte dragged his mattress down stairs into the living room because of my snoring. Monte said the next morning he had thrown shoes at me but I still kept it up all night. Monte and George two of the greats who will always be missed.

Day two, up at 0600hrs, a cup of tea and toast at Steves and we were away again to Cambridge to see Mick Mansers birds. Mick released his kit at 0810hrs in good conditions and they flew a nice pattern at a good height, but the birds didnt want to work. Only one break was recorded for the 20-minute fly.

The other flyer in Cambridge was Les Dodds, whose kit was released at 0905hrs. This kit turned out to be a very active kit of rollers, but just missing out on big breaks because of the birds following through. Les had one out bird for most of the fly, which didnt help matters but all in all, a very good kit of rollers to watch.

At this point we said our farewells to Steve, as we had a four-hour drive across country to the home of one of the greats, John Lenihan, at Paulton just outside Bristol. Johns kit went out at 1310hrs in good condition and flew a nice pattern, but again two out birds stopped any score and with two birds landing at 12 minutes that was Johns fly ended until next year. We went inside and Johns wife had some food and drink ready for us, which we got tucked into. Thanks to you both.

Refreshed and ready for the road once more, we said our good byes and headed for the M6 to make our way to Childswickham to the loft of Gordon Daffurn. This was another flyer that I was keeping my fingers crossed for, weather wise. Over the last 4 years Gordon has bad weather, to say the least in the World Cup, strong winds and rain. I have seen his birds no more than a couple of feet above the fields trying to make their way home in the gale force winds. It worked, we arrived at Gordons in perfect flying conditions, so out the birds went at 1620hrs. The kit was a dream to watch, with 23 breaks and 7 of them over 10, with good quality and depth. A very active and class act which would be hard to beat.

Kit number two was released at 1650hrs and Gordon said he fancied the yearling kit even more than the old bird kit he had just flown. Sadly this didnt happen due to the birds flying on one wing for the full 20 minutes. We were stopping at Gordons that night so me and George wandered down to the local village pub for a couple of nightcaps. Up early next morning and a good breakfast inside our bellies and it was on the road once more for day three of the competition. Thanks for the hospitality Gordon.

Back on the M6 north, to the home of the roller, Birmingham. Our first port of call was at Paul Williamss loft. Pauls kit went out at 0825hrs in a slight haze, which caused the birds not to lift, stopping more breaks being scored.

From Pauls it was onto Neville Hacketts whose kit was hit, hard by a team of racers, which put them right off their stride. They made the birds fly on one wing for the full 20 minutes not putting up any score.

Tony Bagley was next on the flysheets; he also lived in the Birmingham area, The Black Country. Tony released his kit at 0940hrs in better conditions and his kit worked well at first, then the two dreaded out birds cost him four real good big breaks of over 10 birds. Tonys wife had tea and sausage sandwiches ready for us all when the fly was completed. Thanks to you both.

Last but not least in the Birmingham area we made our way to the loft of Terry Harper. Terry was waiting for us at his place because he was off work suffering with a bad back. He liberated his kit at 1045hrs and they lifted well and flew a good pattern, changing wing over the valley, what a lovely sight. The kit put in 20 breaks of which 6 were 10 and over, a very active kit and a pleasure to watch. After a cold drink and a piece of cake it was back onto the M5 to the next stop just out side Crewe to the loft of George Burgess. Sorry Terry I forgot to take your photo.

We arrived at George Burgesss at just after 1300hrs and his kit was put out at 1310hrs. The kit flew well, and was very active but not rolling together, so only one break was scored. George filled us up with food and drink, which was enough to last us a month. George decided to follow us to the next two flyers, so off we all set towards Kinsley Holt and the home of Peter Handy.

We arrived at Petes at 1445hrs in perfect flying conditions, so I was hoping for great things from Petes kit, and we were not disappointed. The kit went out at 1450hrs and started to crank up the score, 7 breaks of over 10, which could have been more, but for the dreaded two out birds. The kit held it together long enough to take the lead off Gordon Daffurns kit.

From Petes we went over the tops, which is about 2000 feet above sea level, and we ran into one hell of a thunderstorm. The rain was lashing down like stair rods, running down the road in torrents like a river.

We arrived at Morris Barwicks to sunshine and blue skies, what a change. Morris is another flier who suffers with bad flying condition regularly, where he lives in Dove Holes. This was the first time I had been to Morriss and had good weather. So out they went and worked well until spooked by a Peregrine Falcon, but they still managed 18 breaks. When we left Morriss we saw the Peregrine coming back over as we pulled out of the drive for the next destination.

Another long drive over to the Wirral, to the loft of Paul Sissons, better known as Birdshit Lofts which was the last port of call for the day. It was 1925hrs by the time we released Pauls kit, into a lovely evening sky. The birds started well then went flat and two birds landed at 13 minutes, so that was it for Pauls kit. We went inside as we were sleeping at Pauls and his wife had a full beef dinner laid on for us all, which was fantastic, thanks to you both. After dinner we sat talking rollers and downed a few brandy and cokes, just for medicinal purposes you understand!!!

John Heague should have flown before Paul, but we were told his wife had had a baby early and both were in hospital with a few problems. So from all of the roller fraternity I would like to say, hope all goes well with you and all the family John.

Day four, over to Trevor Weavers place at Warrington, for the first kit of the day. Trevs kit hit the sky at 0810hrs and put in 18 breaks with 3 breaks of 10 and over. Some good quality birds were seen in this kit. Trevs wife put on tea and sandwiches for us all after the fly. Thanks to you both.

Next it was a few streets down the road to Trevs brothers loft Ken Weaver. When we arrived at Kens, Trevs birds had drifted over our way so we had to wait awhile until the birds dropped. Here at Kens we saw a kit of real good quality, which just missed out on bigger breaks but still put in a total of 26 breaks. One out bird spoilt the kit but didnt loose Ken any points. After another cup of tea at Kens we were on our way to Wigan.

We arrived at Wayne Groves in Wigan and he released his kit at 1045hrs. They started well until four racers hit them and scragged the all over the sky. Hard Luck Wayne.

It was the over to Coppull to Ronnie Hales loft for the next kit to fly. Ronnie put up a kit of very active young birds which put in 13 breaks in nice style. A kit to look out for in the All England Championships in August.

Pete Lynam was the next competitor to fly at Heywood, a new face in the roller game, who has only been fling birds for a couple of years. I had seen his birds once before the previous year. Out the kit came at 1320hrs, and what a show they put on for us all, 30 breaks in total, with 6 breaks of 10 and over, we had a new leader. Well done Pete.

The last flier of the day was Steve Buckley out at Oldham. Steves birds hit the sky at 1420hrs but after a full 5 minutes off the clock they still get it together and were split all over the sky in two kits for 10 minutes. Once they did pull together they put in six breaks but by this time it was too late.

We left Steves and dropped onto the M62 to go overland to Bradford for our last port of call that day. We were stopping at Eddie Baynes place for the night; Eddies wife Janet put us on a lovely stew in a giant Yorkshire pudding. We talked roller for a while but we were both tired out so we hit the sack early.

It was up early once more for the final day of the fly, Janet had cooked us a big breakfast, The Full Monty!!

Eddies kit lifted well and they began to clock up a score. The birds put in a total of 18 breaks, but would have done much better if they had changed wing pattern as they flew on one wing for the full 20 minutes.

The next competitor to fly should have been Mark Cranney, but he was suffering with a bad disease in his loft and had lost many of his flying and stock birds to it. Hope all is well with the birds now Mark.

So it was onto Phil Ahmeds place the final stop in Bradford. The lads in Bradford are a great bunch of fanciers, always having a laugh and taking the piss out of each other. Phil came up to me and asked for some advice about a bird of his that had rolled down between the houses and caught its legs on the house wall and he thought they may be broken and should he kill the bird. I told him to put a couple of wheels on its legs and give it his kids to play with. Brum!! Brum!! I have got a mother and father no matter what Phil says. Phils kit was out at 0850hrs, but out birds again spoilt another kit with only two scoreable breaks being put in. Phil had some real sharp and very fast rollers in his kit.

Our next stop was over in Leeds at the home of Alan Hamilton. Alans birds were put up at 0950hrs in good flying conditions and they started to work really well. This was another kit that seemed to want to only fly on the one wing most of the time but when they did change wing they put in most of their 24 breaks. I would have liked to have seen this team fly the figure of eight, what a show that would have been. Sorry Alan I forgot to take your photo.

After a cup of tea and biscuits it was off once more to our last port of call and the last fliers of the day and competition in Leicester to Dave Moseley and Ian Baines. These two kits should have been flown on the first day but Dave was away in America judging a World Cup qualifier in California so I put them at the end of the fly to give them time to get the birds out for a couple of flies, as Dave didnt get home until the Friday, the day before the start of the fly.

Dave flew his first kit at his place at 1320hrs and his team split, and he also had out birds for most of the 20 minutes fly, so only one break was scored. Good quality and depth was seen in this kit of rollers.

The second kit was released at Ians place at 1425hrs and the same thing happened here, they were off the clock for the full 5 minutes before they had to go on. They never seemed to get it together though but again good quality and depth was seen. Better luck next year boys. And yes that, is Dave smiling

Well as a final note on the fly, it turned out well weather wise for all but me, but thats how the cookie crumbles as they say. I have always said that in any roller competition to win you need good birds, good weather, and a sprinkling of luck.

This being the first time George Frost had judged a fly with the multiplier and out bird rule, George was to say the least a bit dubious about the scoring system. I myself had already judge the system with Pete Harper when we both went over to South Africa to judge their qualifier for them and both me and Pete had felt the same way. I must say that by the end of the competition we were both converts and had seen the light.

The two out bird rule had lost points for quite a few competitors but in the end when we are training young birds the fist thing we look for is bad kitting and cull those birds, so why do we still put up with old birds out of the team? Over the past ten years since I have been on every National and World Cup Fly the kitting of our birds has got steadily worse from what I have observed. I would like to see in the near future the English fliers adopting this scoring method as this system of scoring would force us to get rid of those drifters out the kit.

The multiplier for quality and depth works real well from what we have both seen, as a bird that rolls with good quality deserves more points because that is what we are supposed to be striving for in the end. So a bird that holds that same good quality for a greater depth deserves those extra points.

The 200 quality points we use in the National Championships in England is fine if it is used to its full potential but not many judges do this and as a consequence, active and only just scoreable teams outstrip solid rolling teams because of this.

The thing that proved the depth and quality factor to me and George was the team of Peter Stripps. Petes team scored 8 breaks totalling a raw score of 94 which was times by 1.7 for quality and 1.6 for depth, giving a grand total of, 94 x 1.7 x 1.6 which equals 255.64. A well deserved score for top quality and deep rolling kit of birds.

The same team to National Flying Rules would have scored the same 94 raw score and maybe 16 for kitting with about 80 point for quality from the way I have seen most judges score. This would give a grand total of 190 points, which is 55.68 less than the World Cup system. This 55.68 is 11 breaks more which hopefully would have taken Petes kit above an active only just scoreable team using the World Cup Rules.

Both myself and George after talking about the competition think that the World Cup system is the only way to go if we want to improve our birds in this country. Theres some food for thought!!!

Well it only remains for me to say a big thank you to George Frost for doing a great job on the fly, and thanks once again to all of you who fed watered and put us both to bed.

Next year will be my last World Cup in this country, as I am leaving to Live in Northern Cyprus, so I hope someone will take over the running of the World Cup as I think it is by far the best fly of the year. Hopefully I will be over in England in the future to judge some competitions if asked.

The Turkish Cypriots are pigeon lovers like most Turks, so hopefully I may be able to get a club set up in Cyprus and fly the World Cup from there. The sign on my loft must be an omen, as it was made for me and stands for The Nottingham Competition Roller Club but could now stand for The Northern Cyprus Roller Club!!!

Well thats all folks.

All the best from us both and Keep Em Flying.

Paul A. Lee (European Coordinator).

George Frost 2004 World Cup Qualifier Judge England Central & South.

Texas

Judge Ellis McDonald

Name

Quality

Depth

Total

Qualifier

Alex Hamilton #2

1.4

1.5

405.3

Qualifier

Len Hall

1.4

307.72

Michael Baldwin #1

1.2

237.60

Joe Joyner #2

1.3

228.15

Carlos Easley

1.2

178.56

Walter Teal #1

1.2

1.1

154.44

Ray Fleming #1

1.2

141.12

Freddie Thomas

1.2

138.24

Homer Griggs #1

1.2

115.20

Bob Golson #1

1.3

1.2

102.96

Randal Williams #1

1.2

97.92

Barry Ward

1.2

1.1

91.08

Gary Roberts

1.3

81.12

Robert Goodrich

1.1

66.55

Don Sutton #1

1.3

1.2

59.38

Jerry Dickey

1.2

53.28

Joe Joyner #1

1.2

38.88

Sam DaMommio

1.2

20.4

Sandra Derrick

1.0

Charles Koontz

1.0

Walter Teal #2

DNF Due to severe Weather

Ray Fleming #2

DNF Due to severe Weather

Bob Golson #2

Randal Williams #2

Michael Baldwin #2

David Westbrook #1

David Westbrook #2

Don Sutton #2

Alex Hamilton #1

Homer Griggs #2

Northern California

Judge Kevin Naylor

Name

Quality

Depth

Total

Qualifier

Joe Urbon #1

1.4

1.3

72.8

Qualifier

Bill Crider

1.2

1.1

42.24

Chuck Roe

1.2

1.4

28.56

Dan Cowell #1

1.2

24.48

Don Siggins

1.3

1.2

23.40

Dave Henderson

1.3

23.40

N.D. Taylor#1

1.0

1.1

Ken Firl #1

1.3

10.14

Art Lee #1

1.3

8.45

Harold Marshall

1.2

7.2

Joe Kiser#1

1.1

1.0

5.5

Joe Gauthier

1.0

Myron Walton

Gordon Jackson #1

Greg Faciane #1

Tom De Cicco

Dwight Wallace

John Henderson

Rex Clark#1

DNF

Beverly Mangue

DNF

Joe Urbon #2

DNF

Dan Cowell #2

DNF

N.D. Taylor #2

DNF

Ken Fir #2

DNF

Art Lee #2

DNF

Joe Kiser #2

DNF

Gordon Jackson #2

DNF

Greg Faciane #2

DNF

John Henderson #2

DNF

Rex Clark #2

DNF

San Diego Regional

Judge Juan Navarro

Name

Quality

Depth

Total

Qualifier

John Jones #1

1.7

1.5

272.85

Eric Schoelkopf #1

1.3

248.43

Joe Peluso

1.5

1.4

91.50

Steve Medel

1.3

1.1

71.10

Mark Bowers

1.5

1.3

60.45

Al Eoff

1.5

1.3

42.90

Steve Moore

1.3

1.2

32.76

Mario Medel

1.2

1.1

20.40

Jim Wahlroos

1.2

7.20

Mel Mabon

Gustavo Medel

Jorge Rodriguez

John Jones #2

Eric Schoelkopf #2

Joe Peluso #2

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